Not sarcasm towards me I hope 
It wasn’t sarcasm.
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Thank you 
It’s been a while since I had some fun on IC, actually, it’s been about a year. @Funeral you were in my family. We had a bit of fun that round… very little BS in our fam, we just worked well won some wars, lost a few more, but it was fun…
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I definitely remember you aye, welcome back sir!
So what’s the defination of a war win?
Suppose fam 1 gains 50 planets mostly by clearing shares with bankers, but looses control in 20 systems, because attackers got their spread mass cpff
Fam 2 didn’t focus on bankers. They might have lost the 50 planets but kicking out attackers and gaining 20 system spread the greatly adds to their future war potential.
I reckon positional and system gain can often be more valueble than just planets gained early.
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Except current definitions would always take the fam that took the most planets… and losing lot of banker planets won’t help in the long run
Alot of good idea’s here, i didnt read all, but i think we are missing the main issue as i see it.
For this game to get back on its feet it needs new blood to run it, develop it and fund it. With a clear vison of what the game it should become, and not a coalition of player meanings swaying from left to right, making it a semi breed of everyones opinions. The game has insane potential no doubt! Pie has tried and done a good job trying, but calling it a great success would be a lie, but he kept the game alive and we should take our hats of for that mans effort.
Passing the game on to new leadership, find away to fund it and give it a 100% effort of 1 year with a full overhaul, now that could change things. Look for a team to do that!
As an oldish player returning from time to time, there is nothing that attacts my curruiosity here anymore…it seems that the state of the game is going down year by year.
Make a real change, the bandaids we been putting on it for the last years isnt enough, it needs open heart surgery 
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I’m not selling it any time soon, but I agree we need more help to run it.
Fwiw though, “the state of the game is going down year by year” is debatable. Despite how things may feel sometimes, our numbers are actually up compared to this time last year. We’re also still getting new features, active development, amongst other things.
There is more going on here than just keeping the game online.
That’s not to say we aren’t in need of work, because we obviously are. But 2021 was better for IC than 2020 was. It is helpful to take a step back and look at the different factors and metrics to gauge these things, otherwise we’re left to interpret things based on feeling, not data.
I very much agree with your general point though: that we need a more focused vision, and more focused effort.
I’m on vacation but want to discuss a few things regarding this topic when I get back, including my own role here changing and bringing in others to fill in some gaps.
Stay tuned.
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Part of my reason for posting was what we as the community can do without said developer input… sure with actually dev work a lot of stuff can be changed… but most if what is complained about is partially behavioral… so if we choose not to do that then we don’t need a developer to code in a specific way
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i think in a perfect world, where people was as as nice as you fool that would be possible, but do you se Orbit play nice or swagga?
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Actually yes, as long as the bounds were in terms of a competition not a social hangout
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You fool is right aw.
Showing a code of honor to your enemies or a little respect in chat rooms goes a long way and we’re all at fault for not doing better and does not need any developer to make it so
I have lies made up about me for no reason but to slander my name yet I show respect to even my enemies in-game. Just because one is capable of doing something does not mean they should, I do not farm families or war them to a point they cannot recover, I nap for a reasonable cost if anything more then retakes Gained, I do not war families early if avoidable.
Now all that being said aw is also right you fool because I’ve been doing this myself for over a year and have only been slandered for it. Just because we act with respect does not mean others will follow the lead.
That being said yes in chat I can do better still as well.
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AW is right too of course… and the other thing left unanswered, or even unasked, is what sort of game do we as a community want IC to be…
I like your idea about farming new players for food so we can grind harder . I like pooning noobs personally but I think their should 1. Be more use of discord for finding tracking and helping noobs, people to find them and train them but I also think it should be done in game and not in discord for better training of noobs because it better to learn about working working than at a party or in a park and not at work like discord vs using the actual game ect . 2. Game staff should outright help noobs when they sign up . 3Get them involved discord ruins game play in game you can rollplay get them active having fun make it a challenge give them an enemy 4 Get the noobs rawr
Also I’ve already said this but hall of fame needs to be more public on the webpage people like having their names posted it gives them pride in something and incentives I would suggest a link under rankings or bookmarks on tool tab and make it easier to see all the names maybe top 10 only so we can show more names .
Also things that helped me early on where players telling me how much fleet to send and feeding me coords then after a few rounds they have to do it all themselves doing this for noobs and learning the game without discord will help a lot I believe.
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The honour code went down the toilet since pie took over the game because he disbanded the mod team.
That isn’t the only reason though, because IC is on its dying legs people care less about being honourable.
Fact is people these days don’t have an appetite for games like IC, it’s too slow and clunky and absorbs way too much energy.
Pie should focus his efforts on automating game features and making it just generally quicker and easier to play.
Pie also needs to invest time understanding how the game is played not just in a bottom 3 rank family floating around, but in a competitive team trying to win, he would learn everything he needs to know about IC in 1 round.
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I swear to all that is fucking good in this world - please drop your hate of Discord. It’s not going anywhere.
Been saying this many times as well as Orbit, completely agree - we live in a TikTok world where content is generated on a vast scale and attention spans last 18 seconds. Anything to make the game quicker and easier to do the basics focuses more on the strategy and game play.
Giving people 3 explos to start with, reducing the time they take to produce and increasing the number you can make in a 24h period for example would vastly speed up explo phase and remove the dead ticks at the start of a round - stuff like that.
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Easier to play like how sit on discord and conspire against players who think the game should be played on the actual website then just delete them ?