UA does make them a reality but that reality is only a symptom if what is wrong with the game and people cheating when they are not allowed if the ability to cheat is removed it will help.
Obviously market aiding isn’t the only thing that people do to cheat but it seems to me that its low hanging fruit and easy to fix
People try this in my family every round.
But!
With no anonymity there would be a record of it, and you would know right out the gate if people are predisposed to play like that.
Grudge?
Me?
Why would I have a grudge?
I learned a ton this round.
I can’t wait to get out there and apply it all to the new round.
If that means “Big name players” quit playing, I am not at all surprised.
If I play with any advantage the game offers and that causes people to stop playing then @I_like_pie needs to fix the game so that is not the case.
Thanks for all the lessons this round.
I am freaking stoked for next round if UA is still around and if anonymity is gone.
We get to see “what is in a name”.
Who doesn’t want that?
@Darrk you say one thing and in your next post you spin it and ur suddenly talking about something else, it’s abit tiring to discuss with you and i dont care enough about this subject to go on… good luck in the future rounds and with UA.
I can understand your frustration!
I have stuck to my guns about honor for a very very long time.
I have had somewhat of an ephiany.
I am:
100% For UA.
100% For removing anonymity
Honor means absolutely nothing anymore.
You and your fam farming me down to 10p broke my will to play by any set of arbitrary rules.
I simply intend to play the game as is.
Thank you!
You got me to agree with @Undeath when he said “There are no NAP’s other than ingame naps”
Amazing.
My goal starting next round is to play as hard as I can to give @I_like_pie all the information I can by playing simply by the rules the game makes.
With UA gone it’s awesome.
I no longer need to hold myself to a set of rules other people do not.
The game has its own set of rules, and they might not be perfect but that is a platform issue.
Like you said:
This round was “your way”.
Munder, Sol, and ICD won last round by playing by the rules the game allows.
That was their way.
I bet I can use more game mechanics better than they did to get an advantage over players.
Can’t wait to find out.
Specially if people can’t hide!!
It is a really good point - but if UA is allowed, then it is not cheating.
Nothing is cheating anymore.
There is no cheating!
If stuff gets to out of balance, that is the games fault - not the players.
Anything that was said on the negative side i agree with 100%.
Pitbull
I really want to agree with this but I’m not entirely convinced that it isn’t the other way around and the hiding is the result of the toxicity. Some players end up less liked (for plenty of reasons in and out of their control, but being rude, unpleasant, dishonorable, or a sore winner/loser are some of the reasons). Those players are then ganged up on for revenge or whatnot later. That very well may lead itself to a vicious cycle where more and more players hide and take that opportunity to be more toxic to each other.
Anyway, the moral of the story is that people should be nicer to each other and I hope that hiding becoming not allowed does in fact change that for the better.
It may just be hoping, but it hasn’t been tried before (both UA an NoHide) - and at this point I would piss on a spark plug if I thought it would help.
Thank you for reading and such.
Cool so see people take the time to read it all once in a while.
This whole round has been a shit show. It has not been fun. It has only burnt me out so much that I don’t know if/when I will come back to IC. Not willing to do this again.
I liked IC because it was you and your fam vs the world… now its just huge gank squads… skill means nothing, it’s just who can screw the other alliance over first.
Here comes the IC Troll
Then do us all a favor, and offer up some solutions.
No UA is an unsustainable shitshow for Pie, and he can’t enforce the damn thing anyway.
UA is a shitshow for us, because it brings out the worst.
Help us all PA - make some suggestions to fix shit.
Pie seems willing to try just about anything.
Meh if UA is here to stay, I don’t really see the point in investing any more thought or time into this game. Maybe that will change after a long break, but as for now I am done… if It wasn’t for my family members I would have just deleted already and been done with it.
I think market killing will help. It used to be that if you were active enough you could make enough income from cycling bids that you could hugely improve your fams income with the market. These days the main use of the market is for funding UA’s
The bit it doesn’t fix is getting fams to swap out planets to gain shares but it’s so obvious when it happens that it could be fixed by having clauses in future NAPs instead.
Enforce the galactic council. Issues can be brought up, votes taken, and action enforced through ingame methods. (Not attacks).
All fams can have 1 ally or whatever and must declare who it is in the galactic council. If a switch is made the GC must be notified. Leadership chamges etc…
If fams are found guilty in a vote, their entire fam is rogued/pmoded for 2 days. A 2nd guilty verdict means rogued and not pmoded for 2 days.
Let the players have real power to fix things they see as issues.
I cant see myself hanging around too much longer if UAs are the norm
Ditto
Yea I think something like this would work well … TBH AW genuinely wanted something like this, but I understand why everyone was suspicious and it almost immediately fell through.
How about instead of IC radio, or this impending shitshow of EoR - we all get with @I_like_pie and have a nice conversation.
A moderated voice chat would move a hell of a lot faster than the forums.
I should clarify what “UAs are here to stay” means.
It doesn’t mean that we want to repeat MW68 over and over again. That was never the point.
What it means is, that we have to focus on alternate solutions. UA isn’t the problem; IC itself is the problem.
So, those of you who are considering quitting, even temporarily, I humbly ask you to take a step back and consider 2 things:
If this really is it for some of you guys, it’s critical that we get your insight on the 2 questions above before you are gone. It will help us improve for MW69, MW70, and so on until eventually this pain isn’t there anymore.
Thanks.