IC-Radio Update, show split, future plans

I hear ya @kingray. I’m treading carefully here because there’s a prior private conversation where I, to be blunt, have been receiving no shortage of insults and vitriol.

I’m trying my best to be positive and professional, but it’s a tough situation for both of us.

I do sympathize with @MTG_Dad too, but I also have a business to run and am not really interested in a player telling me that they own something that is not theirs to own.

Yeah it’s messy, and dirty laundry smells bad, but on the other side there is value in transparency.

I have nothing bad to say about MTG_Dad

I’m doing my best here to talk about IC-Radio itself, and I have nothing but positive things to say about @MTG_Dad and his work.

He’s an excellent host, and it is a loss for me that he chose to operate independently because he did not want to take direction.

However, that does not take away from any value that he’s provided and I am thankful for his work. I have nothing bad to say about him.

If he chooses to slander me, however, I do have a right to address it. On that note:

There is more to the show than recording and editing.

When I’m not developing, I’ve spent a lot of time and effort on how the shows are presented, including organizing their transcripts and getting it all in the wiki and sorted on patreon.

You can see this work here.

While you discount my involvement as a single interview, I’ve been working with other players to transcribe and organize the show. You can see this TICP Episode 1 Transcript as an example.

This is something we’re specifically doing for our deaf and hard of hearing players, something that costs additional money, and something that I’ve reached out to /r/deaf on reddit for guidance on.

So please don’t discount my work there, because you are also discounting the work put in by other players and even 1 player who paid to cover the cost of the automatic transcription that IC has to pay for somehow.

You worked on IC-Radio for free. Just as every other host and editor has.

The budget I’m talking about is part of the cost of running Imperial Conflict, something that I’ve been operating at a loss for since I bought it.

If you’re expecting to get paid, join the line. It’s been 3 years for me and I’ve still yet to pay myself.

Yet, you told me that it’s your show. Repeatedly.

IC-Radio predates you hosting it. We hosted it an entire year before you joined on for the second version of its talk format. It’s always been an Imperial Conflict-owned property.

IC-Radio is part of Imperial Conflict. It is Imperial Conflict Radio. Imperial Conflict and its properties are owned by Foohon Pie LLC.

Say whatever you want. You now have 100% control of the show you host, which is what you wanted.

As for the naming, “IC-Radio” is reserved for the official radio show, which you decided to move on from when you posted the recordings to your personal sound cloud. You told me that you understood this would happen, and told me “so be it” before you did it.

There is no surprise here. IC-Radio is not your show. It is an official Imperial Conflict show.

My record speaks for itself with regard to criticism. I’ll debate with players all day, and plenty of players here know that. What I won’t do, however, is censor anybody.

I have no problem with criticism. My problem is with a player telling me “no offense, but this is my show” when it isn’t.

The timing here also speaks for itself. You had 100% creative freedom to say whatever you want, which we both knew.

The change here happened when you decided to post these recordings on your personal sound cloud account when I asked you not to do that.

It would be. However, an official show means the hosts cannot operate independently. You can’t have it both ways.

Let’s be clear on this.

You were hosting IC-Radio until you decided today that you don’t want to operate within IC’s oversight. You knew this, I informed you about what that decision would mean, and again you did it anyway and told me “so be it”.

Whatever show you are doing now is not IC-Radio. I have zero control over what you do now, because it is no longer IC-Radio.

Despite this dispute, I hope it is successful.

I don’t want you gone. If a player tells me “no offense, but this is my show” as you did, then I am inclined to make it true that you are in control of your own show.

The show you run is now your show, as it is no longer an official show. It has to be one or the other, it can’t be both.

Regarding the backlog and “stopping”

I understand, and this was MTG_Dad’s point too. The issue is that the backlog has been sitting and will never be prioritized if we never find time for it. We need those episodes up, which is why I told MTG_Dad that they are the priority.

I do get why people think that’s a weird way to go about it, but in the end somebody has to be able to say “Ok, enough debate. This is what is happening.” MTG_Dad felt like he was that person, despite the fact that he doesn’t own the show.

If it wasn’t this issue, it would have been something else. MTG_Dad felt like he owned something that he doesn’t own.

No, not at all. The opposite will likely happen imo.

This is the positive that I’m trying to show here: MTG_Dad no longer has to bother with me. He no longer has to ask me anything. He can record what he wants, publish it when he wants, and even talk shit about me if he wants to.

He is in 100% full control over his own show, and he’s more than welcome to keep posting it in the forum and/or on his personal soundcloud. This is a good thing! :slight_smile:

The thing I’m stopping, at least temporarily, is “IC-Radio” because that is an Imperial Conflict property and it can’t be ran by somebody who fails to acknowledge that fact. With MTG_Dad choosing to operate independently, the official show is now without a host.

I’ve been hesitant to restart “IC-Radio” in response because I don’t want MTG_Dad to think I am trying to compete with or squash his show. Why would I? I want his show to succeed.

It’s just a boundaries issue. IC owns IC-Radio, and MTG_Dad claimed otherwise.

This announcement is me being clear to our audience that MTG_Dad is now operating independently, which is what he wanted.

You can’t operate independently and also expect to carry the official name. You can’t have it both ways.

He absolutely does. He is 100% correct about an official show being good marketing.

The thing is, he also wants to have 100% control and decision making over it. His decisions conflict with the existing roadmap, which is a problem for me on the business side of things.

I may not always have time to explain myself to him, nor am I obligated to. If he is hosting an official show, there’s a level of trust involved to take direction and an implicit agreement that he is working for the show.

I believe that is the root issue of all of this. He saw himself as owning the show, not working for it. That is a very important thing that has to be addressed. The community is owed an explanation if he chooses to operate independently, which he did.

I agree, if it does stop. That isn’t the plan though.

Ideally he will keep his show running. We may bring back an official show if necessary.

The problem here is ultimately an ownership dispute. He told me that IC-Radio is his show, which is a problem, because it isn’t.

He hosted for IC-Radio. He never owned it.

This sucks for everybody, but we can find positives here if we choose to. He can still do his show and I hope that he does. We can also keep an official show if we need to, that adheres to IC’s business decisions and direction.

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