Lol, you think those are big changes?

Wait till you see this crazy pile of awesome. :sunglasses:

Mate they are all well and good.

But as I say you should have at least one original galaxy with original standard rules.

Then ur new freaky weird stuff in new galaxies. (Weird to me as I’ve been gone years and years)

That way people have the option. Rather then being forced to play with how there not comfortable with. Ya kno?

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Only changes to MW are:

  1. No anonymous play.
  2. No IA (basically pie is fucking sick of policing it).
  3. Evolution. (Which he made because he isn’t investigating IA.

Pie is doing all kinds of cool shit on test with the rest.

Surprised pie has stuck it out with you all tbf. Anyone else would have run a mile. Guy deserves a medal or something to be fair. Legend in his own right but sometimes he’s too nice and tries to cater to much for the masses. Not a bad attribute to have tho.

Pie is stubborn as hell.

Howevers, Pielosophy is always a fun, and for the most part pretty fucking fair.

Welcome back @Leeeeee can’t wait for the next round to start.

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Glad to see things are cooling down a bit here. :slight_smile:

@Leeeeee there’s a bit of backstory on the UA thing, but in a nutshell the issue is that IC itself is inherently broken, and Stefan never got around to fixing underlying issues because the rule against IAs were a shield to hide behind.

It’s an easy scapegoat to say that the removal of the rule is causing problems, but really IC itself is the problem. The good news is, now that we are able to see this, we can start the good work to fix it. About 18 years too late, but better late than never. :slight_smile:

The other, more practical issue, is that it’s impossible to moderate fairly as people just dodge the rule by coordinating with external tools. No proof of communication = no block = smart cheaters get an advantage = the game is unfair and we can’t do anything about it.

The rule, while well-intended, has always been a band-aid that actually makes the game worse. With the rule gone, we are experiencing a period of acclimation that is painful but ultimately will benefit the game.

@RenegadeDamon the NAP-limit has some backstory too. At the time it was introduced, MW rounds would sometimes be stalled to the point where people would call for an early end weeks before the scheduled end. Complete with the same “IC is dead” but just different reasoning.

It’s the opposite problem we have now; if all this volatility makes us look bad now, back then the forums were pretty much dead which also made us look bad. It’s all a matter of balancing.

I will take the blame though, as any changes to features always bubble up to me. However, I think that feature worked pretty well before the UA change. My biggest mistake imo is not realizing sooner that NAP warning + break history would need to be a bigger priority. It is now though. :slight_smile:

There is also an item for Improved NAP terms, which is similar to what you describe.

As for people not changing, I am more optimistic about that. We have a huge challenge ahead of us but I know a lot of people here are good people and just get caught up in the heat of battle. I’ve done it myself.

Ideally, we can be friendly competitors without feeling that rage that IC can induce. IC needs to do its part to facilitate that behavior, which is indeed on me. I do believe we’ll get there. :slight_smile:

Speaking of good behavior, nobody was manually removed from the Think Tank. I don’t manage that, you guys do via flagging. It’s not a permanent thing either, players can get back into it after awhile, it just takes some time.


Dark, plz repost the list of Nap Breakers so we keep them fresh in my mind because I am old and might be getting old timers remembering disease.

So far as I can tell the list has already caused some of the nap breakers to leave the game which is a GOOD thing, means we already accomplished 1 part of the goal of policing nap breakers.

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@WhiteShadow -

Tho I personally think you are often hilarious.
It is prolly time to let this go. :heartbeat:

We got a whole new round starting soon, and sure we lost a few, and their might be truth to your words, but just like you or I - most will be back.

“The thirst always wins”



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In war, there is always love @SunTzu


SunTzu of Milkyway (#6504)

I was worried something had happened :slight_smile:


Mouse of Keyboard (#6491)

Yah, weekend sleep is important to me :slight_smile:

But thanks, I really do appreciate it, and no hard feelings back at ya.

PS: ask AW about me and pax :stuck_out_tongue:


SunTzu of Milkyway (#6504)

TBO never played with you before but you have been a pain in the ass. I mean that as a compliment not an insult. I always thought Paxes rocked and all other races were dirty in comparison. If I had to offer advise. You sleep in too much and miss a few hours of OH in the euro morning.

No hard feelings I hold no ill will towards your fam. Good job and dont let Paxes down.


WS, you broke a nap this round. You are also a nap breaker. On top of that you made multi accounts and cheated.

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Well, I mean @Lord_Pickle can’t let it go.


Don’t be a pickle @WhiteShadow.


I am letting it all go in 49 minutes …

Once sin has been paid for then there is without sin and as such DON’T Duck Pickle take it like a man :slight_smile:


@WhiteShadow my man lol. Surprised to see you and hp still around. You are still as funny as always :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

@Darrk that is the most mature and appropriate post anyone has posted in this thread. You’re right. Takes a bigger person to shake hands and walk on. Fair play to you. Take note the rest of ya :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I feel like I’ve contributed to calming this thread down for you now @I_like_pie you may award me with ten million cash in the test galaxy so I can test some things :heart::kissing_heart:

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Hey Lee

Come on back dude, been a long time since we played together :stuck_out_tongue:


@WhiteShadow yep too long mate. I still remember your first round with me and hydrop in was it saggy d or Draco one of the two and you was :fire: seems like just yesterday.

I’m back for the next round of MW for sure. I’m off work for at least 6 weeks(tore a ligament)

Does it have drafts or is like all random only?

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yes still has drafts

and yes it was Draco seems like maybe 2009

we owned the galaxy that round, the bankers refused to go take all the planets off us because there were too many for them to send to


Of late it has been about 50/50 drafts to random ratio.
Sorry about your leg man.

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@WhiteShadow Can’t beat those rounds in Draco and old sd that’s where we really Had fun. The players back then were a different breed. I wouldn’t have been the player I was if it wasn’t for them. 100%

@Darrk aww thanks bro. It’s my own fault lol. I did it just before Christmas. It started to to get better but I went back to work and became to active too soon and it just went again the other day. Old age for ya haha!

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