The question I had was how this improves the game, thank you for assuring me I don’t have to use it if I don’t want to though.
You’re very welcome.
Your question has already been answered twice now:
Again, as this was already measured, there is little reason to not also rank it.
@Jets and @Terror_of_the_Night have provided reasonable concerns, which is something we can consider for HC rounds and for future stats to balance the game’s focus.
Those sentences don’t seem to me like reasons why it makes the game better, but maybe I can ask you this. What problem is it solving? I guess it doesn’t matter people can ignore it but I just really wonder why bloating the game makes anything better.
Is there maybe any player who sees this as making the game better for him? I really wonder.
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That’s a fair question.
There’s a longer term goal to provide a more diverse opportunity of experiences. This will expand the game’s reach but also give existing players recourse in the scenarios where they feel like the game is pointless. This happens far more frequently than is apparent at a casual glance and is a huge factor for player churn.
Addressing this is one of the driving factors behind things like Achievements, or alternate galaxy win conditions. Both of those, together with more ranking metrics, will all serve to expand the experience and retain more players.
Providing more reasons to play will solve 2 problems:
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It will make the game more open-ended for new players, casual players, and bottom-ranked players.
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It will prevent players from giving up in frustration when they realize they can’t win size or nw.
Both of these things have always been huge problems. Pop ranking by itself won’t fix this entirely, but it’s a first step in a much larger approach.
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yeah, i think it would be fun to see all top statistics at the end of a round
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Succesful attacks and defences would be a really good ranking that would spice rankings up. Fleet NW total killed also would be awesome
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Ranks:
If codeable - on your profile (when you click your name in the game) you could have award image (the little trophy that is there already looks good!). Lets add the Gold Silver Bronze for 1-3.
Why not expand the profile rankings to include all of these things.
Production:
Gold
Iron
End
Food
Oct
Planets explored (on it’s own as a rank, can mean to many things)
Conflict:
Planets taken from another family.
Spells / Operations done to another player.
Family rank:
Size
NW
You have 10 easy metrics.
Much like the NFL Quarterback rating (wich like never fails to pass the eye fuck test)
Divide all that shit by 10 and poof you have individual overall rankings.
Seeming the game is already capable of figuring out most of that already (or it deffy used too before it was correctly pointed out to be free info) in real time - just add a column that does the current “Single player ranking” in real time in the Gala rankins that currently show NW and Size.
Would also work for families! I would think in real time as well.
@I_like_pie - Poof size isn’t the only metric anymore.
Sure some old buggers might keep their “size is the only win” line going (and I might be one of them) Meanwhile, the rest of the players can dance off into the sunset with their dope ass profile bling and new rankings.
I would love to see my “SS” play get tossed into that blender.
Shiiiit.
We used to have resource/gold rankings, but got rid of them because it was essentially free information. I see the same problem with the pop ranking.
Show it at the eor if people want bragging rights or whatever, but that info shouldnt just be given out.
Not convinced I support it for all galaxies (still on the fence), but I do agree that Hardcore Galaxies should severely restrict what information is publicly available on players. No population numbers given without ops/spells. No ability to highlight ANY individual player in the map.
For that matter, could even create a 100% pure hardcore galaxy where even the planet counts and net worth are hidden for players, and information ops/spells are removed, as well as implementing map fog.
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@Xenon1122 this pop info was already publicly available though on the empire page. the new ranking doesn’t provide any free info that wasn’t already there before the change. that’s different than the resource/gold rankings.
would you recommend we remove pop entirely out of public view? i can see that working well for a HC galaxy
As a pregnant Disney princess I’d like to point out that it has very often been a disadvantage for popbankers that others can see how much pop you have.
I’d prefer it stricken entirely because you’re always a target for Pax players. And they can backtrack quite easily how much units you may have. It would make popbanking possibly as popular as it was in 2004. And everybody loves a good comeback.
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@I_like_pie yes I believe it should be removed there as well.
I do think this, along with top gold/ressies would be fun to see at eor though
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Hey I give pie credit atleast he is trying to do something, I agree that pop should be hidden give us a op not spell cause we have extra spells, give us a op that shows how much pop a banker has. After 2 weeks in a round a player should know the top bankers in the galaxy are pop bankers.
Top 2 nw bankers @rizz.
I assure you, Tish makes more a tick that all but TMoney and Lethal.